Emails
Subj: saw your email
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: Ultra21753@aol.com
Hello,
Where in
Subj: RE: [MC] Sonic Weapons
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: Ultra21753@aol.com, mindcontrol-l@sonic.net
My understanding is that the real estate industry is using this strategy
and tools to accumulate land in neighborhoods for redevelopment. It is pretty
plausible in these situations for neighbors to earn move out bonuses, etc. New
Jersey is a likely place for this to happen, depending on where you are.
Gentrification is much more profitable when you can get a lot to sell quickly
at as low a price as possible.If you go to Amazon and
buy the latest books on non-lethal weapons, you will discover that the FBI and
many other people do know about this technology. You may not have gone to the
right group. You may have better luck if you go back with the research.
Also....check in with Janes, it is the best website
on arms. They have a non-lethal weapons conference in
Last but not least, the Department of Justice signed a memorandum of
understanding with the Department of Defense around 1994 todetermine/develop
and possibly prototype non-lethal weapons for domestic application. If you look
at the extant to which they are using HUD (operation safe home) and a number of
groups to drop paramilitary teams into local communities to do surveillance,
sweeps and arrests in both government and private housing, it would not suprise me if they were prototyping this stuff in local
communities. The current Covert Action Quarterly has a good article about
The DOJ/DOD MOU is similar in concept I think to the one that DOJ had with CIA from 1982 to 1995 that permitted the CIA to not report drug trafficking by most of their network. This was essentially to using drugs to finance their operations, including the domestic covert operations. The CIA Inspector General disclosed this in their report on the Dark Allianceallegations. You can get it at Mike Ruppert's site www.copvcia.com, or link to the CIA site from there.
Good luck
Subj: [MC] (no subject)
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: Ultra21753@aol.com (INTERNET:Ultra21753@aol.com)
I tried writing to you, but mail came back as undelivable....listen
it's ok this stuff is real and hud is behind it and
the real estate organizations they clear out areas and seel
cheap.....hud,,,,goes after sociopaths and forces
them to fo into hospital for treatment.....so what
else is new
Subj: RE: [MC] A Question?
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: Ultra21753@aol.com ('Ultra21753@aol.com')
I have personal second hand knowledge that HUD is one of the most corrupt
agency within the
Subj: [MC] A Question?
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: MINDCONTROL-L@mail.sonic.net
>From reading some of the information presented on this list and
private
>emails that were sent by members of this list, I was wondering if the
group
>that is harassing me is created and funded by a government money that is
>being illegally skimmed or obtained from a government agency,such as HUD.
Good question. This has been what I have been trying to figure out.
HUD is an enforcement operation that gives the federal government tremendous authority to be in and engineer activities within communities, including those used to retail drugs and some money laundering, as well as to hand out fees to political constituencies to own and control land and real estate in the particular place. The usual good government and libertarian forces do not object as the branding on HUD communities has persauded all that what is happening is entirely the fault of the citizenry. So this is a great place for what is about to happen to all of us to be tested....slow moving viruses, buying in all the guns, non-lethal weapons. Once the operations folks have worked out the kinds and established the precedents, they canmove it upscale quickly and we can do little.
In 1992-96, a series of decisions were made by the federal government to do ethnic cleansing in these communities, one of the goals of which was substantial real estate profits on gentrification. (Ex: See LA Times yesterday...modest apartments up in value in South Central by 100%). The way this is being done is part of the reason I believe that we are coming in to an effort to flip the business model back to legal drugs.
Theoretically, HUD subsidies and financing could fund properties and
property management teams that could spend their time doing these things in
support of gentrification or a variety of private activities. Think of it as a
back door way of financing covert "black op" teams all across the
country. If any of the rumours are true on the
acceleration of ethnic cleansing in the
Meantime, DOJ has a Memorandum of Understanding with DOD to develop/prototype non-lethal weapons for domestic application. Given the volume of the testing needed, where are they going to do it? HUD is a logical place. It has authority to ride around in surveillance vans, hand out cash to informants, and make arrests in local neighborhoods without any one noticing too much. Substantial efforts appear to made to cut local enforcement into multijurisdictional task forces which get a piece of the asset forfeitures and headlines that make this sweet for them.
Meantime, there appears to be plenty of money laundering through HUD properties and mortgage related operations. When the company leading on Promis software is making a big push in the mortgage software business and Bank Of New York has big fees in mortgages while allegedly vaccumming cleaning the core capital of Russia, we know the mortgage markets can not be unaffected. That means HUD because HUD has little disclosure and no capacity to see or prevent financial fraud. HUD personnel are focused on supporting ethnic cleansing operations to feed prisons and real estate gentrification. Consequently, another alternative is that HUD and related federal parties make sure that folks are free to take a % of the cash to finance these harrassment operations for a variety of purposes.
Last but not least, there are the reasons that we discuss. Trigger behavior, kill, etc. These are things that I am learning more about thanks to so many wonderful people on this list. (God bless you!)
Again, I would advise using Solari analytics to map out the money in your place. Who can make money doing this and why? How much can they make versus how much does it cost. That will show you risks and incentives for a variety of parties. If you know how all the money works in your community you can probably figure it out. We should have our website up in October if you are interested. www.solari.com. If you check out the Operation Safe Home performance reports on the HUD IG piece of the HUD Home Page and track what places and what activies they are doing, you may see some patterns that inform your research and who HUD may be playing with.
All info on HUD appreciated. We intend to stop this silly business. We are sitting here doing the business plan for something called the Solari Militia. The idea is to use the law and markets to cut off and seize back their money in a way that makes us money. It seems to me that we can not do this, but all of us could. So the network model will have to work or else we are all going to be hearing noises pretty soon.
Please take care of yourself!
Catherine Austin Fitts
Solari
(Former Assistant Secretary of Housing-Federal Housing Commissioner-HUD/Bush
Administration)
Subj: Re:
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: Ultra21753@aol.com
Many years ago when I was targetted, they didn't have the current technology. I'd just get wierdos hanging out, strange cars parked in front of my apartment, usually white vans, cars following me, strangers saying things to me as they walked by, clicks, phantom rings and broken phone connections, etc. I combatted it by keeping a log of all unusual events, writing down the pertinent info as it ocurred. I also carried a camera with me and started taking pictures of these peckerheads. Then I got a gun for the house. Within 6 months I was off the target list & have been ever since. When you project an attitude of no fear they start to back off. When you begin to take counter measures they go away. They don't like victims that refuse to play the victim game. Look into becomeing a gun owner & be seen at several local ranges practising two shot groups. They are bullies. As soon as you are no longer easy pickings, they shrivel.
Hit back
Subj: Re: ALERT
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: ultra21753@aol.com
Ultra,
They are using improvised building trades utensils. This crap works
through walls. It is not non-lethal!! In fact through their capability of
creating a
bubble in the fluid cavities of the human body,
there is a great potentiial for a lethal
effect.
Also they use vibrational (structural testing equipment) devices to vibrate beams in a residence and then send a pulse through the vibating medium. Believe me! If it happens to you, you will swear you just got hit with a 'Proton Beam'. But a slick unscrupulous landlord can do this by manipulating the plumbing of his 'steam heating' system and take a pass on the STE's. .
However, these people are not alone. Remember the wild anti-drug violence attributed to 'The Straight Edge' cult, or the 'Crackbusters of NYC' ? Groups whose violence was given a green light by the law enforcement community. These may be copycat offshoots of these groups.
Good Luck From The front Line
Subj: Re: (no subject)
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: Ultra21753
Our goal is to get all un-American, non conformists off the streets, as
well as to make sure that the mentally ill such as yourself,
receive the treatment they so desperately need.
Subj: CHECK THIS OUT!! THE WRITER
IS BLACK I THINK
Date:
Author: XXXXXXXXXX
CHECK IT OUT. I copy/pasted it. I don't think it's HUD or DOD as the writer thinks at all. This
technology has been around a few years, plus KGB techno is for sale. Did
anyone see 60 minutes, the show with the neighborhood watch keeping the punks
out with video camera filming them doing crime? I think it's this - and
cops either can do nothing or won't do anything.
Subj: Sonic Cannon
Date: Sun,
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: ultra21753@aol.com
This is to inform you that the weapon you describe, the sonic gun device
was developed at the Bendix Research Laboratory,
One of the project team,
Subj: Re: Methodologies.
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: ultra21753@aol.com
Nice observation of "checklist method" of psychiatric diagnoses.
It has been my observation that there are a lot of people out there who are not familiar with the term "plausible deniability". You may not be; give that term a lot of thought.
Basically, if you seriously want to mess with someone you do it in such a way that anyone seriously describing what happened to them will immediately be suspected of being either a pathological liar or simply insane. That's a "plausibly deniable" attack strategy or tactic.
If I went after someone with a baseball bat, and they told someone I went after them with a baseball bat, that would be plausible. I could deny it, but my denial might be implausible.
If on the other hand I went after someone with a microwave oven that
could instantly be re-converted back to its normal state, and I attacked
someone with it, _even if they caught on to it_ and complained about it, I
could dismiss the charge by saying "attacked them with microwaves? How plausible
is that? they're paranoid!" -- and
probably no more would come of it... unless I was _absolutely known to have
done this sort of thing before_.
Subj: Re: [EWAR]
Sonic Cannon
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: Ultra21753
Hey Old Buddy,
How is it going? I am one of the gang from r dot com also known as www.racism.com You should check out a post by Joe Z on Alt.mindcontrol on the acoustic zip gun. It sounds like that could be one of the causes of your problems. Joe posted the first part I posted the second.
It is powered by extremely powerful compressed air columns in excess of 3000lb psi. It fills up a pressure chamber, at which point a relase valve or rather a quick release trigger releases the gas. AT this point it forces it's way into a smaller tube, preferably in a circular motion. Upon exiting the air is traveling in excess of Mach 1.
The trick here though is the size of the opening. If it is gauged right (study the tuba) it will not only create a sonic boom but a 'low-frequency sonic boom!! It can't be heard, only felt. In addition the low frequency shockwave will carry an extremely high impact force wave along--THROUGH THE WALLS---- The effects on beings are devastating. These things can be quite small.
This is a very 'dooable no-tech' way of creating probably the most intense sound wave possible and not spending a zillion dollars.
This post was for informational purposes only and in no way is ment as a solicitation or incitement to violence. Also you have to be careful when working the hold chamber for the 'shot' potential compressed air explosions. are devastatingly dangerous to 'YOU' the operator of the equipment.
ULtra I wish you well.
The Folks At R Dot Com
Subj: sound weapon
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: Ultra21753
We need to remember history. People are so sheltered from the realities
of politics, greed, and control. The
Subj: Sonic Non-Lethal Weapons
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: Ultra21753@aol.com
your name was put on a list,you are considered expendable,I was put on a list by three men who can do it,,I was told I will be forced to go insane with these weapons and then killed with heart seizure...and soon....i believe it,totoally,I know all about these weapons...try to go to court and have your name taken off the list or take meds,if you take meds then you will not be killed...you see most people are put on the list because they are domestic adversaries,considered violent,,i refused the meds,I am not violent nor a domestic adversary,,,, so I am to be killed,,,i was put on the list because I protested and went against a rich man in this town who has access to these weapons....,,,i am an enviromental activist......
Hud controlled the list,,,it
is a rich mans way of killing and controlling poor men,by
poor men,,,,there is also a revolution going on in
the country,,,,,lots of reforms in govt.trying to stave off overt revolution.....that is why
lots of reforms......I have just finished several books on revolutions and we
fit the bill......!! any questions?
Subj: a victim
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: Ultra21753@aol.com
These networks that use this technology is
highly organized. Any lawyer or doctor who does anything to put their use of
these methods in jeopardy will not be in business for long. A few years ago I
was like you and believed there could be justice against this type of
thing. Well I must have been living in a dream world because I soon found
out how corrupt the system really is. In the world we live in government
doesn't see the people who use this terrorism as a problem but rather the
people who complain about it.
Subj: Information
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: ultra21753@aol.com
Your website is terrific! I'm glad you shared your technical knowledge
with us. These people that are attacking you are 100% GI Joes -
Subj: Re: War against the mentally
ill
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: Ultra21753@aol.com
Much of your commentary closely matches the thoughts expressed in my
published and unpublished books. There is an issue with respect to HUD, but
perhaps not as you have been led to think. I am interested in hearing
specifics about who said what, when, and where. It turns out that HIGH
OFFICIALS of HUD have THEMSELVES been targeted by EMF attacks - possibly
because of discovering 58 billion dollars has been diverted SOMEWHERE and
because they threatened to curtail the diversion. Thus it is conceivable that
the information source you have may prove helpful in tying these facts together
and, thereby, help resolve a number of related mysteries and stop wholesale
attacks cold. Please advise anything useful along these lines with respect to
details or referral to others. Give my eamil to
them. Have them visit my Web site so they know who I am.
Thanks
Sub: Terrorism in the
Date: Thu,
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: ultra21753@aol.com
Hope you're hanging tough. Does the pig in your neighborhood resemble roach bug? (shine a light on him and see if he scurries away!) - I'd would love to meet him and talk about philosophy before his court martial. (he is most likely reading this message -so he probably gets the idea). There is only one question I have not answered yet, are these weapons operational when confronted with a water barrier? In exchange: These weapons are indeed portable (as you have noted) and can be used from the ground, car or even helicopters disguised with huge lights to resemble high flying satellites. But, for these weapons to be used from a helicopter the distance must be reduced in which you will certainly be able to identify it as a helicopter. Did you ever visit Citizens against Government Experimentation) (4cage.org) before I closed it down? I have created replacement and will give you the address shortly.
Take Care!
Subj: Re: RE:Terrorism in the
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: Ultra21753@aol.com
Slowly but surely the word is getting out on these government assholes.
Everyone that I told about it actually believed me and wanted signed statements
for future court use - not too many people trust our government these days! I
also went to the FBI and discovered that they were corrupt as well as the
various civil rights offices in which my occupation included writing reports
for. It is our duty to continue to get the word out no matter what as you
are aware. I believe that they have been doing their criminal deeds for a long
time now but earlier there was no internet (which now gives the people the
ability to inform people worldwide of their crimes against the people) - a
factor the government has not included in their traditional torture plans. So , we may have the initiative in this thing!
Subj: [MC] High tech weapons
on TV
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: mc@topica.com ('mc@topica.com')
Alert for TV feature on new devices being, or that were, tested on
civilians in the
Subj: [MC]
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: mc@topica.com
FYI: Here is a little blurb I picked up off the Net.
Mahler
Russians Continue Work On Sophisticated Acoustic
Weaponry
(Defense Electronics 03/94)
A visiting team of American defense experts witnessed first hand earlier
this year a brad array of lethal and non-lethal weapons under development by
Russian authorities. "They have a number of basic processes that will lead
to weapons in acoustics in everything from perimeter defense to aggressive
forces." said Hyannisport, MA based defense
consultant Janet Morris, who with husband Chris Morris, became in January the
first Americans every allowed inside the Center for Testing of Devices with
Non-Lethal Effects on Human in Moscow. "We saw a ten hertz acoustic
generator which would be used to deliver a pulse about the size of a baseball
that could knock you down or more, depending on how you power it," said
Morris, noting that the hand-held device can be precision targeted and
"kicked up to lethal level." Range of the hand-held acoustic
generator is "for close-in activities, hundred of yards, not miles,"
she said. "We looked at receiver-less communication device that uses
highly directional acoustic signals to deliver a 'deference tone' to
somebody," Morris continued. The device allows delivery of a signal
at the precise point where two acoustic signals cross. "Only you can hear
it because you can only hear it at the point of
convergence," she said. The Russian also demonstrated for the Morrises a form of radar that identifies people behind
walls or under rubble by measuring heartbeat and respiration patterns. "It
needs to dwell on you for at least seven heart beats or respiration, then it can tell if you are conscious or unconscious, and
whether you are a person or, say a German Shepherd," Morris said.
The hand-held unit would be useful in natural disaster search and rescue
operations following earthquakes and floods, or for identifying locations of
highly concealed snipers or terrorists in a combat zone or similarly lethal
insurgency.
Subj: Psychological Warfare!
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: Ultra21753@aol.com
I found a group that uses psychological warfare to convince people that
they are in need of psychological help as define by their interpretations. They
are connected with a religious group that uses force to get rid of undesireables. Their definition of undesireable
is anyone who disagrees with their ideology or uses the same tactics that they
use. This includes people who aren't blind followers or may ask questions
before gassing other human beings with poisons. Believe me, the chemicals they
use are, by anyones definition, Poisons! If you think
they mean no harm, you are so sadly mistaken. Harass someone like they do is
harming physically as well as mentally. Hence, the term Going Postal is the
result of a person being harassed beyond their level of endurance. It makes
people Paranoid just like the perpetraitors
themselves. Some of the chemicals they use don't cause immediate death, but
they do cause heart problems, Liver damage, Lung damage, Nerve damage, and
Brain damage. You don't think they mean you harm?????? These psychos do mean
harm because that's what they do -harm people! To slowly drive someone to the
point of killing other innocent people is doing harm to others. Do you think
they care? HELL NO! If they drive you to the point where you go in a kill other
people who are innocent of any wrong doing to you or them, you don't think they
mean any harm? I think you may be identifying with your harassers. I can tellyou they are "the dumbass
jump to the wrong conclusion" assholes. They are not professional
Psychiatrists nor even pschologists.
They are Paranoid Scizos who are sadistic and enjoy
harming others
Subj: It's the Navy -they do what
they want in the Navy!
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: ultra21753@aol.com
If you are being harassed with chemicals and electronic devices such as
the ones used to communicate with Dolphins, it's the good old
They are, without a doubt, engaged in neural experiments involving high tech neuro-phone sound devices that were originally developed for the deaf. The Navy has taken this device, and they are using it to harass civilians and experiment on the general civilian population. They start by picking you out because you fit a profile. I never hated anyone and trusted everybody yet I was not the kind of person to follow blindly. I fit the profile they wanted. Now they have to harass me in such a manner as to make me appear insane. They will break and enter your home while you're gone and install bugs. They also have their own Dentists that will do their dirty work for them. They recruit Doctors and other health care personnel to get you under their control.
They will put drugs in your food that mimic psychosis and laugh at you when you react to these drugs. IT CONVINCES THOSE AROUND YOU THAT YOU ARE INSANE. Once you submit to a psychiatric examination, they have you right where they want you. I have never hated before in my life, but I can actually say that these bastards taught me how to hate. I never knew what that feeling was like until these bastards harassed me. As a former veteran, I can tell you that it makes no difference to these bastards. I actually saw first hand the Army equivalent of these unconscionable bastards. These bastards use phony identification to gain access to your neighbors homes and they recruit Police and other government personnel to cover up their gross violations of your civil rights.
Some of their members belong to groups like the KKK and other hate
groups. They also have members that belong to Satanic Cults. They are the low
life trash of
Subject: Re: Mentally ill people targeted
From: XXXXXXXXXX
Date:
Message-id: <3A8A8F33.FF844002@Managerie.com.au>
I tend to think the aim is to "encourage" people onto medication. Perhaps I am being too forgiving in saying this. After all, this is unethical and immoral behaviour by most standards and something most would find unacceptable from the people purporting to be the pillars of society. But yes we are targeted with sophisticated (and not so sophistocated) classified technology. Nothing new here. Good to see other people know what is happening.
BTW...
There has been a recent report here in Oztralia
where the drug companies have allegedly been paying doctor's to use their
products for research purposes without the patient's permission. Abuses of the
sort suggested have been going on throughout history. Read about the syphilis
experiments in amerika against the blacks. Personally
I don't find this recent news report too hard to believe. And "welcome to
the real world". (A quote from the movie 'The Matrix'.)
Subj: Re: [wnusp]
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
Reply-to: wnusp@topica.com
To: wnusp@topica.com
>Once the person is driven out of control and commits a violent act,
he or she
>can be declared violent and mentally ill by the system and legally
forced to
>take medication for the remainder of his or her life.
Personally, I would use a different model and different examples to come
to very similar conclusions. It seems to me that most of this is driven
by the pharmaceuticals and profits, with the full cooperation of prescribers and health professionals. I do think some
of us are triggered into unusual behavior by environmental and sociological
events in our lives and that the triggering may well be intentional. I think we
are living in a world that has little tolerance for difference, has fault and blame as a value, asserts a hierarchy
where people with psychiatric disabilities are shunned and "othered."
Subj: Re: [MC]
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: ultra21753@aol.com
I agree with some of your ideas. The Mental Health Community is definatly involved. The Mental Illness attack against
individuals has been so successful in the past that it has been expanded into a
larger Community based Vigilante movement. Look into "Community
Policing" and CPAC " Community Policing Advisory Committee" This
Law Enforcement / Civilian Organization already has the infra structure,
resources, and equipment to sustain large campaigns against individuals for
extended periods of time. They also have access to the equipment which is being
sold to groups in a franchise type arrangement. Community Policing can involve
Church groups, seniors groups, youth groups, educational institutions, etc etc. I believe I know a person who is involved in the
franchise sales of the equipment and training.
Subj: Re: [Illusions] RE:Forced medication
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: ultra21753@aol.com
Hi! I know of a person who has a similiar story about the DEA etc. This person has no access
to a computer but tells a identical story to the one
below. To me it is highly unlikely this story even remotely similiar
could be fabricated with no inside info to fortify or validate what they were
stating. Very good post. I no longer think this person
is mentally i'll.
Subject: Re:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
Date:
Message-id: <t98b6c5eda5pce@corp.supernews.co.uk>
I totally agree with you but your words are not what I would use myself.
The people who are doing this sort of thing are not targeting the mentally ill.
They are targeting innocent people with the intention of making them exhibit
reactions that could be interpreted as someone being "mentally ill"
especially if/when a person divulge information about his/her experiences
of the sort of attacks that are waged against a persons mind, spirit, and body.
The idea is not to target the mentally ill but to make targeted
civilians\people appear mentally ill even though they are telling the truth about
their experiences and they do not suffer from paranoia. This can be done to any
healthy mind - the difference now is how the mind cope
with these sort of attacks. So they are creating "mentally ill
patients" that could be drug out of society out of normal healthy human
beings! I personally believe that these secret police are everywhere (this
include outside the US) and personify themselves to be some sort of social
police - if you do not fit the stereotype image (what is propagandised
on television), are able to think for yourself, and do not adhere to the crowd
mentalities then you have a big chance of being a target. They also hate
whistle-blowers and are a good front for the nazi
movement. Anyone can become their targets - these include politicians and
University professors. Part of the faction also enjoy carrying out illegal drug
and radiation experiments on their targets in order to create more profit for
their movement. Ultra21753, do you consider yourself as "mentally
ill"? Personally, I don't think you are. I've been to your web site and it
has a lot of information on non-lethal weapons as well as other tricks used by
these criminals. To get to the bottom of this: I would rephrase the subject as
"
Subj: Re:
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: ultra21753@aol.com
drug companies and the gov't that they pay
taxes too are the biggest drug dealers, it's not ok to smoke weed, or do what
ever mood altering substance of your choice get up in the morning and go to
work, but its ok to take paxil, ritalin
and every other over the counter drug and feel great and happy, or drink your
self to death, or kill a family of 4, and alcohol isn't made illegal, but light
up a joint and you go straight to jail
Subj: Re: Drug Companies Helping Fund
Secret Police?
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: ultra21753@aol.com
It's not at all farfetched. Look what the Eli Lilly Co. is doing lately
on TV. Marketing Sarafem (fluoxetine)
for what amounts to a totally normal and natural condition, woman's monthly
period. Thats right it's Prozac under a different
brand name since Prozac has such a bad reputation they just changed the name,
same drug(fluoxetine).
Subj: Re: [MC] Psychiatry
Committing Fraud
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: Ultra21753@aol.com
First we have to deal with your definition of the 'mental health system' whatever that may be. Second, it could also be
people or persons who are prejudiced against a person
whom they have redefined as mentally ill in order to justify their
prejudiced feelings against said person. It (the action) requires some
form of a justification when it is done on an
organizational level. E.G. the redefinition of the person from 'weird' or
'different' or sinful, perhaps morally insane(a faith
based healing term) to mentally Ill. What you are really referring to is
the use of treatment as a form of punishment. In
the community of the
Subj: Re: [high-tech-harassment]
Re: Documentation?
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: high-tech-harassment@yahoogroups.com
Hi,
You're dealing with the government, so law enforcement on all levels will look the other way. No victim's advocate group will take a case like this either, none. Not the ACLU, Amnesty International, nor any other. And good luck finding a lawyer that will take a case like this! All I can tell you is to hang on to what evidence and documentation you have, and continue to collect more. Use it in speaking out and informing people about what is happening (Don't bother with the mass media- they won't help either). The more people are made informed, the weaker the perps become! Until someone is able to get a case like this into court, just keep documenting , collecting evidence and talking.
Take care
Subj: [high-tech-harassment] Re:
Documentation?
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: high-tech-harassment@yahoogroups.com
Sometimes private citizens do the dirty work of the local cops for them,
sort of a hidden police brutality. These people usually are members of a
neighborhood association, such as part of a block watch. They protect their
"neighborhood integrity" and property values in the same sense as the
Ku Klux Klan would do the same thing. Only their bigotry is based on police
stereotypes. Hiring a PI might get you more information on them, but you'd have
to sit on it until a good opportunity presents itself. The system helps them as
far as trying to keep them out of court.
Subj: [Re: High Tech Watergate
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: Ultra21753@aol.com
You are wrong. Active Physical Surveillance is used as a
tool by socialists to create the
<The above reply is to the
following posting in a newsgroup>
High Tech Watergate
Hello,
With today's advanced electronics
technology, extremely sophisticated surveillance technology has been developed
that can see and hear people through walls. This sophisticated surveillance
technology is operated out of sight from inside a house or apartment and can
actually see and hear through the walls of a neighboring house or apartment.
Images of people inside the neighboring house or apartment are displayed on a
video screen and their conversations are heard through a speaker on the
surveillance equipment. This surveillance technology gives an eavesdropper
X-RAY vision and super sensitive hearing that enables the eavesdropper to see
and hear through walls.
With this surveillance technology, no
break-in to a person's home or apartment is necessary to place video or audio
eavesdropping bugs. From inside a house or apartment, where the surveillance equipment
is placed, images of people in the neighboring house or apartment and their
conversations can be recorded and used against them.
The break-in at Watergate which led
to President Nixon's resignation no longer has to happen. Political operatives
can simply move into a house or apartment next to a political opponent and use
this surveillance technology to see the political opponent's movements and hear
his or her conversations in his or her own home. The political opponent under
surveillance will never know he or she is under surveillance.
Extremist right-wing groups are using
this surveillance technology to slowly implement their extreme agenda. Public
officials who threaten this extreme agenda are placed under surveillance and
information is gathered about these targeted public officials that will be used
at a later time to embarrass the pubic officials or destroy their public
careers.
These right-wing groups are extremist
groups and are willing to take whatever measures are necessary to implement their
extreme agenda. Family members, mistresses, and friends of targeted public
officials are also placed under surveillance to assist in the gathering of this
damaging information.
Right-wing political leaders with
extreme views are aware of these high tech right-wing groups that are using
this surveillance technology. These political leaders secretly approve of the
surveillance against political opponents and covertly support the activities of
these groups.
There is one possibility that was
overlooked in the recent highly publicized case concerning the missing intern,
Chandra Levy. Right-wing political opponents of Gary Condit may have had Mr.
Condit and his mistress, Chandra Levy, placed under surveillance for a period
of time in an effort to discover ways to politically damage Mr. Condit and his
political party.
These right-wing groups resemble the
Nazi Party of past Nazi
A right-wing group could have placed
Gary Condit and Chandra Levy under surveillance by moving into houses or
apartments next to Mr. Condit and Miss Levy and used the sophisticated
surveillance equipment to see their actions and hear their conversations in
their own homes.
A complete profile would have been
built of both Mr. Condit and Miss Levy. These complete profiles would be used
to determine how best to frame Mr. Condit. If one looks closely at the Gary
Condit scandal, the possibility exists that an extreme right-wing group could
have kidnapped and murdered Chandra Levy to frame Mr. Condit.
Other congresspersons from the
Democratic Party may have been placed under surveillance by these right-wing
groups but Mr. Condit's flamboyant personal life provided the perfect catalyst
to embarrass the Democratic Party and advance the right-wing group's agenda.
I know firsthand of the viciousness
of these extremist right-wing groups because I've been targeted by one of these
extremist groups for the last three years. These right-wing groups would
sacrifice the life of an innocent person for political gain.
The people who join these right-wing
groups are people who would join such hate groups as the KKK or Nazi Skin
Heads. These modern high tech extremist hate groups are now operating behind
the scenes where they are no longer visible to the general public and news
media.
With media attention paid to recent
hate crimes, such as KKK cross burnings on African American's home lawns, hate
groups have found it difficult to implement their agenda by conventional means
used in the past.
With today's sophisticated
surveillance technology, these right-wing hate groups are using information
gathered with this surveillance technology to setup, frame, embarrass,
discredit, or even destroy people who stand in the way of implementing their
extreme agenda.
Right-wing political leaders are
supporting these right-wing groups as a last ditch effort to force their way of
life on
If you would like learn more of these
right-wing groups, please read my story on the URL listed below. Nothing is for
sale.
I sent information about the
right-wing group I was targeted by to the local prosecutor's office several
times but have never received a response. The local prosecutor's office is the
I would be very appreciative of
anyone who could write a letter and send it or email it to the
My Web Page:
http://members.aol.com/ultra21753/
http://www.co.camden.nj.us/government/offices/prosecutor/index.html
Thanks,
Ultra21753@aol.com
Subj: Re: High Tech Watergate [Yahoo! Clubs: THE TRUTH ABOUT THE GOVERMENT]
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: Ultra21753@aol.com
I saw this technology at a Police
Officers Convention years ago its nothing new. A police officer can drive by
your house and see EXACTLY what you are doing inside. This technology has been
present for 9 years. They can watch you eating watching TV even having sex. Big
Brother is watching and its not just Right Wing groups its
the Government in general.
Subj: Re: High Tech Watergate [Yahoo! Clubs: Tiffani's
Conspiracy Club]
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: Ultra21753@aol.com
Just because the courts say you can't
use such technology in court doesn't mean law enforcement can't use it. Our privacy
and freedom is slowly being wittled away.
Subj: [MC] They ain't perps
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: mc@topica.com
I have had to stopreading
most of the post these days because everyone sounds like a bunch of
whiners. I can't believe some of you
have not figured it out yet. The "perps" are not "perps". They are professional brain washers. Most brains don't need washing! If they are doing it to you, you are not
"thinking properly". You ARE
doing something "wrong" ( or you do not care
what is wrong with the world ) When you get your head screwed on right, they
will stop doing it to you. Too simple. I know
what I was doing wrong and I was forced to look at myself and choose to either
be a part of the problem or a part of the solution..... It is not all that hard to figure. They have the power and no one can stop them. They are only doing what everyone says they
want, making the world a safer place for everyone. High tech prohabition,
stepford wives, children etc etc. They are stepping in where someone dropped
the ball. If you could rig the world of
all of the drug addicts, prostatutes, child
molesters, terriorists and all the stupid people
wouldn't you ????
Subj: Re: Please Help the Mentally ill
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
Message-id: Message-id:
<Pq_x7.17950$5o4.2511954@news0.telusplanet.net>
I did hear of a scal\ndal several years back wher doctors would commit ppl because they got money from the drug companies to do it.....they usually picked up the homless as no one really misses them and they are often over looked. But that was a *looooong* time back and since then laws have changed to make this a less likely occurance. I doubt you writing the prosecutor will do any good, thats like trying to get rid of prostitution and the drug trade.....it ain't gonna happen.
Subj: [criticalpsychiatry] Re: biological psychiatry=neo
nazi eugenic
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: criticalpsychiatry@yahoogroups.com
The Holocaust was the result of a
racist biological science which claimed to find genetic defects among specific
groups of people: 'Jews', 'Homosexuals', 'Schizophrenics' and others who were
socially discriminated. These alleged genetic defects turned human beings into
sub-humans who were exterminated in the name of cleansing the German nation.
The Nazis are gone. The 'Jews' and the 'Homosexuals' gained political power
against their persecutors. Those left are the 'schizophrenics'. And again a
scientific claim is made based on prejudice, hatred and persecution by means of
medical slander - namely: Psychiatric Genetics. The path of German/Nazi
Genetics led to Auschwitz - the path of the new Psychiatric Genetics leads to
persecution; to the torture of psychiatric forced treatment and to murder -
under the guise of prenatal Psychiatric assessment - thus: Neo-Nazi Eugenics
Subj: Re: Secret Police in Urban
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: Ultra21753@aol.com
The CIA and the NSA have had this
technology for years.
Subj: [high-tech-harassment] Swoop and Squat harassment
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: high-tech-harassment@yahoogroups.com
For all the poor MC and E-Harassment
victims that have a problem getting people to believe that others are
attempting to stage accidents that involve them. They would appear to have a
lot of company. Perp vehicles trying to play this scam usually (but not always)
involve several passengers driving old beat up vehicles.
Subj: [high-tech-harassment] Big Business/Harassment/Psychiatric Scams
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: high-tech-harassment@yahoogroups.com
Donald Soeken,
a former
Soeken is sometimes called the father of the
fight against abusive fitness-for-duty exams. While doing such exams for
federal employees at the Public Health Service's outpatient clinic in
After leaving the Public Health
Service in 1994, Soeken established Integrity
International to assist whistleblowers in the private sector. Since then, he
has testified as an expert witness in seventy psychiatric reprisal lawsuits. Soeken warns anyone who will listen not to trust the
company psychiatrist.
"If you assume the doctor is
concerned about your health and well-being, you've made a deadly
assumption," he says. "They are looking for any phrase or evidence
they can use against you to stereotype you as schizophrenic, paranoid, or
delusional."
Subj: [high-tech-harassment] Operation BLEED and GREED
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: high-tech-harassment@yahoogroups.com
Operation BLEED and GREED, or
"THE CHRISTIAN MANUAL FOR DOING BUSINESS"
Here's your connection "and it's
a big one" between community vigilante groups, faith based healing and
Christian organizations, the dissemination of Surveillance, Mind control and
E-Harassment tech into the Community, the Military, Law Enforcement, the Legal
Community and just about every other Government Agency. Operation Weed and Seed
is a Department of Justice initiative that involves all manner of organizations
both Govenmental and Civilian. It is a part of the
Community Policing initiative which would also involve
various Youth groups etc. as well. Offshoots would be Citizens Patrol etc.
Aspects of this initiative could easily encompass shills, spin doctors and disinfo artists working on the Internet. A similar
initiative exists in
Subj: [high-tech-harassment] Secret Psych Agents for God
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: high-tech-harassment@yahoogroups.com
The sequel to BLEED AND GREED
In a wierd,
wonderful and twisted blend of non-lethal-weapons, thorazine
and Bibles we are proud to present The Unholy Triangle: Connecting the dots
between The Courts(Law Enforcement/Corrections), their network of
informants (mostly
Subj: [Re: [370-FBIntimidation] The Government is
Watching
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: Ultra21753@aol.com
Hi,
I would be interested in what
happened that you realized something was going on-I can tell you law
enforcement will do NOTHING to investigate or help you in a situation like
this. I found that out the hard
way. No one will help you. That's why I wound up filing my law suit
myself. No attorney would touch it. I'm certain that if an attorney did take it
they would be threatened with disbarment or loss of business. It's a FINE
country we live in, isn't it! Oh by the
way, the same thing is taking place in
Subj: Re: Social Cleansing
Initiative of US
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: Ultra21753@aol.com
I have read your email. I tend to agree with what you say. I live in
Subj: 666
Date:
From: XXXXXXXXXX
To: Ultra21753@aol.com
Makes me think of Nazi
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